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∂22-OCT-75 1130 1,HVA
IS THERE A DECISION ON STAN KUGELL YET - TO EMPLOY (SUPPLEMENTING
YOP FUNDS W/MONEY FROM YOUR UNRESTRICTED) - OR SHOULD I FILE AND
FORGET?
∂22-OCT-75 0517 100,100: AVRA COHN @ LONT
HELLO! JUST DOING SOME NET HACKING. IM FINE AND HAPPY. HOPE YOU ARE
TOO. HI FROM MIKE GORDON AS WELL. ----AVRA
∂20-OCT-75 0940 FTP: host ISI
Date: 20 OCT 1975 0936-PDT
From: RUSSELL at USC-ISI
Subject: Survey articles on AI
To: les at SU-AI
cc: jmc at SU-AI, russell
Les,
I addition to everything else I have asked for, it would be
helpful to have a small number of survey articles or reports which address
various reseqrch problems under investigation at Stanford. In particular
an overview of FOL and the Natural Language work would be helpful.
Highly technical articles full of in-house jargon won't sell to well to
management, hence my suggestion that the focus be on survey or
overview articles suitable for a more general audience.
Will appreciate what you can provide.
Dave
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∂19-OCT-75 2000 FTP: host ISI
Date: 19 OCT 1975 1806-PDT
From: RUSSELL at USC-ISI
Subject: BASIC AI PROGRAM
To: JMC at SU-AI
cc: RUSSELL
John,
Thanks for your answer.
I ment the request for one or two lines or bullets to
apply to each individual entry at the fy level.
Dave
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∂19-OCT-75 1750 ACT,REG
Despite the purge message you have recieved, none of your files have been
deleted. However, you are exceeding your disk allocation. Please review
your files and delete any that you don't need.
∂19-OCT-75 1019 FTP: host ISI
Date: 19 OCT 1975 1015-PDT
From: RUSSELL at USC-ISI
Subject: OUTLINE OF PLANNED BASIC AI WORK
To: NEWELL at CMU-10A, PHW at MIT-AI, LES at SU-AI, FEIGENBAUM
cc: BLUE, RUSSELL, CARLSTROM, CARLSON
I am constructing an AI program plan that requires a section
devoted to proposed work in some structered format. What
I plan to show is the basic AI program broken into three major
categories:
Expert problem solving
Natural language
General reasoning
I recognize that there is considerable overlap between the
three sections, and one could construct a more accurate division
containing two or three times as many divisions, however, it
will be considerably easier to explain and defend a manageable division
of the program. What I would ask each of you to do is to fill in the
outline that follows with the appropriate information on the work
for which you are responsible. I would prefer one or two sentence
milestone descriptions of your program plans showing a logical
progression of work as you see it now. Obviously, near-term
goals can be described with resaonable accuracy, while longer-term
milestones are more general.
EXPERT PROBLEM SOLVING
MIT
FY76 and FY7T program
FY77 program
FY78-FY80 program
Feigenbaum
FY76 and FY7T program
FY77 program
FY78-FY80 program
CMU
FY76 and FY7T program
FY77 program
FY78-FY80 program
NATURAL LANGUAGE
MIT
FY76 and FY7T program
FY77 program
FY78-FY80 program
Stanford
FY76 and FY7T program
FY77 program
FY78-FY80 program
Yale
FY76 AND FY7T program
FY77 program
FY78-FY80 program
FORMAL REASONING
Stanford
FY76 and FY7T program
FY77 program
FY78-FY80 program
MIT
FY76 and FY7T program
FY77 program
FY78-FY80 program
Please note that vision work and automatic programming work
are now elements of the Image Understanding and Software Technology
programs respectively and are not considered as elements of the basic
AI program. Also please avoid as much as possible jargon and the use
of the first person in your comments. If you think that your work should be
included in other categories than are listed, please feel free
to add your work to appropriate category.
I will provide a copy of the plan for your comments in the
next few days.
I would appreciate your comments by Wednesday, 22 Oct 75.
Dave
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∂16-OCT-75 1254 ACT,REG
So, are you going to talk to John Leng on the 24th? Do you want me to be there,
or will a list of questions suffice?
∂16-OCT-75 0234 S,LES
We are slated to have a visitation from the Computer Science Advisory
Committee on Monday morning, Oct. 20. This group of distinguished
visitors provides advice to the Department on various policy questions.
The tentative schedule is
9:00 am Arrival: tour of the Lab., with a few demos
10:00 Brief presentations on research projects by group leaders.
10:45 Coffee & donuts
11:00 More presentations and discussion.
11:45 They head for lunch.
If you have suggestions or scheduling constraints, please let me know.
[I will have to leave about 11:15 to catch a plane.]
∂18-OCT-75 2315 FTP: host SRI
Date: 18 OCT 1975 2314-PDT
From: OMALLEY at SRI-AI
Subject: Bay Area AI Circle Meeting 10/28
To: BAAIC-People:
Members and Friends
Bay Area AI Circle
Greetings
It is time for yet another exciting Bay Area Artificial Intelligence
Circle meeting.
For those of you who are new, the BAAIC is a group of people
interested in all aspects of AI who get together about once a month
for dinner and discussion. While we are an exclusive group, we
welcome anyone interested in AI to join.
This month Earl Sacerdoti of SRI has agreed to talk on his procedural
net representation of knowledge for use in planning and problem
solving. In order to provide balance and entertainment, there will
be a panel of discussants. Unfortunately, the panel members have
asked for anonymity in order to protect themselves from reporters for
the Chronicle and DATAMATION.
The meeting will be held at SRI on Tuesday, October 28. There will be
wine from 6:30 to 7:00, dinner in the SRI international dining room
at 7:00 and the discussion in the SRI auditorium afterwards. Cost
will be $6.50 per person.
Please let us know if you intend to come, either by phone or ARPANET,
before friday, October 24. There will be rides from Berkeley leaving
at 5:15 from Evans Hall.
Mike O'Malley 642-4624 or OMALLEY@SRI-AI
Lotfi Zadeh 642-4959 (auto-answer phone)
A Structure for Plans and Behavior
ABSTRACT
The talk will describe progress that has been made in the
ability of a computer system to understand and reason about actions.
A new method of representing actions within a computer memory has
been developed, and this new representation, called the procedural
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net, has been employed in developing new strategies for solving
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problems and monitoring the execution of the resulting solutions.
A set of running computer programs, called the NOAH (Nets Of
Action Hierarchies) system, embodies the representation and
strategies mentioned above. Its major goal is to provide a framework
for storing expertise about the actions of a particular task domain,
and to impart that expertise to a human in the cooperative
achievement of nontrivial tasks.
The key ideas that will be explored in the talk include planning
at many levels of detail, representing a plan as a partial ordering
of actions with respect to time, and execution monitoring and error
recovery using hierarchical plans.
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∂17-OCT-75 0132 S,LES
Elaine Kant is here now and will finish the Program Understanding part
within an hour or so. I've scanned the first part, which looks good.
I propose to ship it as soon as it is all together.
I forgot to mention that Dave Russell apparently called today and expects
to be out here next week. He plans to be here Thursday afternoon from
about 3 to 5pm.
∂16-OCT-75 0554 S,LES
I just received a message from Russell saying he needs the
Accomplishments as soon as possible. Perhaps we should send what we
have, with whatever polishing can be done straightaway.
∂16-OCT-75 0248 S,LES
Regarding the Bullets: TW says that he has nothing significant to report,
their effort having gone into building foundations for a new system and
in proposal writing. DCL claims that he will emit a blurb any moment now.
I'll push it into the file when it comes. CCG has not been heard from.
I begin to get the impression that he isn't reading his mail.
Did you talk to Floyd about which new students need support? This
question bears on how far we can stretch the budget to cover other
things. There is also the related question of whether we can afford
to continue Martin Frost.
∂15-OCT-75 1312 IBM,DCL
please let me know if you require any further paper work
from me for the adjunct affair. Perhaps i should go over
a checklist of items required with you before it goes
to the next stage (when is that?)
-david
∂15-OCT-75 0031 S,LES
If you would like to look at the ARPA blurbs, they are in BULLET[R,LES].
I still have only the formal reasoning and hand-eye parts.
I have a reservation concerning the latter: it comes on strong for RPV
applications in both the first and third paragraphs but doesn't make
the connection clear. I am not convinced that there is a connection
that is close enough to be worth mentioning.
∂11-OCT-75 2351 FTP: host AI
Date: 12 OCT 1975 0250-EST
From: CARL at MIT-AI
To: jmc at SU-AI
Thanks!
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∂11-OCT-75 1554 FTP: host AI
Date: 11 OCT 1975 1852-EST
From: CARL at MIT-AI
To: CARL at MIT-AI, jmc at SU-AI
Hi John,
I sent you a few quibbles about your IJCAI report which in general I liked
very much and think should be published. My only concern was that you not
inadvertantly get some Russians in political hot water. By the way what is a
"refusenik"?
Cheers,
Carl
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∂10-OCT-75 1357 AM,DBL
I have read your statement about the 4IJCAI.
It seems to be accurate, and worded quite carefully to convey objectivity.
As for the Goldstein's tape, their only comment that you might want to know
about is their fear of reprisals and increased harassment (by KGB) as soon
as IJCAI ended and everyone went home.
A few tiny suggestions: the sentence about London, Stanford,... IJCAI sites
is hard to parse. The list of conclusions was drenched with technical metaphors,
and is comprehensible only to a scientificly-oriented audience (e.g., a scientific
journal, but NOT the N.Y. Times). You might want to include a few quotes from
Lerner, Goldstein, Chav., Sandewall, or some US scientist who was there.
You might want to give the numbers of people who attented 4IJCAI, broken
into USA/USSR/other, perhaps also broken into student/faculty/professional.
Perhaps we should hold a seminar some afternoon, on our reactions/experiences;
all the local IJCAI-goers could come, plus anyone interested in hearing us.
Merle and I may have some of these people over to our house one evening, to
talk and show slides. If so, you'll certainly be invited.
Cheers,
Doug Lenat
∂10-OCT-75 0943 100,100: sgk
Steve Mcreynolds of JPL robotics wants to talk to people on 7-nov. (will
be in area). 213 354-3784.
∂09-OCT-75 1728 FTP: host AI
Date: 9 OCT 1975 2026-EST
From: PHW at MIT-AI
To: JMC at SU-AI
Hi John,
I have just read your Tblisi report and I find it quite good. I make
only the following suggestions:
You say C said the G's could come if they behaved themselves. This
seems stronger than I supposed. In any event I thought the tone was
different from what those word suggest and I thought his feelings were
more along the lines of extending hospitality and hoping that the recipients
would not trod on that hospitality by turning a scientific meeting into a
political forum.
You also said that the G's were picked up a second time on Sunday. Owing
to their Insistence that Bert not take lunch with them and to the
possible divergence of their interests from
those of the community of dissidents, I personally would be inclined to
insert the word allegedly somewhere before picked up.
Yours,
Patrick
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∂09-OCT-75 0825 CAR,HPM
POWELL, Conoley and Hahn, Ottfried J.
"Propulsion System Optimization for Interstellar Probes",
Journal of the British Interplanetary Society, Vol. 26, No. 6,
June, 1973, 334-342.
POWELL, Conoley
"Propulsion System Optimization for A Single Stage Constant Thrust
Relativistic Rocket"
Journal of the British Interplanetary Society, Vol. 26, No. 8,
August, 1973, 466-474.
also of interest - there's a copy in your mailbox
POWELL, Conoley and Hahn, Ottfried J. and McNally, J. Rand, Jr.
"Energy Balance in Fusion Rockets",
Astronautica Acta, Vol 18, No. 1,
February, 1973, 59-69.
also of interest - I'll try to get copies tomorrow
POWELL, Conoley
"Parallel Staging for Starships",
Journal of the British Interplanetary Society, Vol. 27, No. 9,
September, 1974, 686-691.
POWELL, Conoley
"Optimal Exhaust Velocity Programming for an Energy-Limited
Single-Stage Relativistic Rocket",
Journal of the British Interplanetary Society, Vol. 27, No. 4,
April, 1974, 273-285.
ANDERSON, Gerald M.
"Optimal Interstellar Trajectories with Acceleration-Limited
Relativistic Rockets",
Journal of the Astronautical Sciences, Vol. 15, No. 6,
November-December, 1968, 313-318.
ANDERSON, Gerald M.
"Optimal Interstellar Trajectories with Thrust-Limited
Relativistic Rockets",
Journal of the Astronautical Sciences, Vol. 17, No. 2,
September-October, 1969, 65-79.
also of interest - perhaps you'd like to try to get copies
POWELL, Thomas C.
"Fusion Power for Interstellar Flight",
Ph.D. Thesis, Kentucky University - Lexington, Kentucky,
1970, 186 pages, available through NTIS (N71-38275 STAR abstracts).
DUNN, F.J.
"Optimal Interstellar Trajectories with Drag for Thrust-Limited Rockets",
AF Institute of Technology MS Thesis, GAM/MC/70-2, March, 1970.
ANDERSON, Gerald M.
"Relativistic Optimal Rocket Trajectories for Interstellar Travel",
Ph.D. Dissertation, Univ. of Michigan, December, 1966.
ANDERSON, Gerald M.
"Optimal Interstellar Relativistic Rocket Trajectories with both Thrust
and Acceleration Constraints",
Paper presented at 24th International Astronautical Congress,
Baku, U.S.S.R. October 1973.
ANDERSON, Gerald M., and Franklin, Rex W.
"Interstellar Drag and Its Effect on Minimum Time,
Acceleration Limited Relativistic Rocket Trajectories",
Paper presented at 20th International Astronautical Congress,
Mar del Plata, Argentina, October 6-10, 1969.
Selected Papers from 2oth Int. Astronautical Congress,
M. Lunc (Ed-in-Chief), Pergammon Press, New York, 1972, 497-505.
that exhausts Powell, Dunn and what's worthwhile of Anderson
in Forward's bibliography (also me).
∂07-OCT-75 1738 S,LES
To: JMC, RWW, CCG, DCL, TW, TOB
1. It currently looks as though ARPA funding will continue at about the
present level for the next 18 months or so.
2. I have received the following message from Dave Russell (ARPA),
requesting a summary of recent accomplishments. He needs them next
week, so I will need your input by Monday night, October 13.
3. We also owe them an annual report covering the period July '74 to
July '75. I suggest that you fiddle the text of the last proposal.
Absolute final deadline for your part is Wednesday, October 22.
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Les,
I need a summary of accomplishments for the
SU-AI program covering the current year. Please consider the
following guidelines:
1. Avoid JARGON
2. Use the third person - i.e., the program has accomplished
rather than we have accomplished
3. Pitch the summary at the scientific American level
4. Where an accomplishment is listed, particularly a
highly technical accomplishment, indicate why this accomplishment
is important.
Dave/hcb
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∂08-OCT-75 1632 1,DEW
Did Michie have a computer chess conference in England this summer?
If so, do you know how it went and is their anything worth reading
that came out of it? Thanks, Dave
∂03-OCT-75 1053 FTP: host SRI
Date: 3 OCT 1975 1052-PDT
From: RAPHAEL at SRI-AI
Subject: TBILISI REPORT
To: JMC at SU-AI
cc: PHW at MIT-AI, SACERDOTI, RAPHAEL, LES at SU-AI
John,
Your report of IJCAI political events is excellent, and I think
it should receive wide circulation. There are a few additional items
that I think should be added to it to help complete the picture:
1. Several Western participants in the Conference who were
deeply interested in the plight of Lerner and the Goldsteins were unaware
of the Tuesday morning agreement by the Conference organizing committee.
This perhaps unavoidable weakness in communications among concerned parties
led to later confusion and complications.
2. Soviet and Western observers, whatever their personal feelings,
were well aware of the fact that Lerner behaved is a statesman-like manner
and evidenced serious scientific interest in the proceedings of the
conference, while the Goldsteins evidently were more interested in
calling attention to themselves than in the subject matter of the
conference, thereby weakening their potential support from both sides.
3. Aside from these political distractions, a surprisingly open
East-West interchange took place throughout the conference. Although
the amount of hard technical data exchanged was small, the scope of Eastern
activities in our field was an eye-opener to many Westerners, and the
many personal contacts that were established have significant potential
value in the future for both Science and Detente.
4. On the other hand, the operational problems of dealing with
the clumsy, inefficient, bureaucratic, Soviet state travel organizations--
Intourist, Aeroflot, and the Visa office-- were truly incredible to most
Americans. Any organization considering holding an international
meeting in the Soviet Union should seriously consider whether the
experience, which I still believe to be valuable, is worth the almost
unimaginable amount of extra time and energy that conference participants
will find themselves devoting to what should be simple practical
arrangements.
John, if you do not want to include something like the above in
your letter, I would not mind adding it as a postscript over my signature.
Of course, I would also like to hear Pat's opinion. Also, I still have
in my possession a statement written by the Goldsteins chronicling their
version of events in Tbilisi, and would welcome your and Pat's suggestions
as to what to do with it.
Regards, Bert
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∂06-OCT-75 1124 1,TOB
I like very much your letter concerning the negotiations with Soviet
scientists for IJCAI.
Tom
∂30-SEP-75 2157 BPM,BPM
John: Lee Erman was wondering whether you had any "short piece on anything
at all" that could be included in the next SIGART Newsletter. He mentioned
your collection of essays and that maybe you could pick one that is already
in fair shape and that would be appropriate to the SIGART readership.
∂30-SEP-75 2257 BPM,BPM
To: JMC, LES, CCG
Pat Suppes and Bob Smith have OKed use of INTERLISP at IMSSS except for
9 am to 9 pm weekdays. For FREE!
∂29-SEP-75 1637 network site AI
Date: 29 SEP 1975 1937-EST
From: RWG at MIT-AI
To: jmc at SU-AI
moses says ok if at most two consoles at once, and after 7pm pdt.
jeff golden (jpg%ml) has teaching material and intimate knowledge of how
novices confuse it. i will speak to him when he returns on 1 oct. ellen lewis
has written some introductory stuff which, on very brief inspection, looked
excellent. i will purloin a few copies. see you 6oct.
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∂23-SEP-75 2004 1,RWG @ AI
do you want me to ask moses about macsyma time? if so, just what?
∂23-SEP-75 1157 network site SRI
Date: 23 SEP 1975 1154-PDT
From: BOYER at SRI-AI
Subject: TOPOR'S VISIT
To: PROGRAM REASONING GROUP:
RODNEY HAS ARRIVED AND WILL BE IN THE AREA FROM TODAY THROUGH FRIDAY.
HIS TALK IS STILL SCHEDULED FOR 4:00 ON FRIDAY.
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∂22-SEP-75 1241 1,PAW
there is a faculty meeting scheduled for Friday, Sept 26 at 9 am in polya 204 to
discuss Luckham
∂22-SEP-75 1231 network site AI
Date: 22 SEP 1975 1531-EST
From: CARL at MIT-AI
To: CARL at MIT-AI, jmc at SU-AI
Dear John,
I have read your report and in general like it very much.
However, I do have a couple of small quibbles.
First it is not clear that it is fair to report that the Soviet scientists
personally object to the presence of Lerner as chairman of the panel.
These conversations took place in private where the Russians thought that they
could speak privately and frankly. Your report may be a breach of this confidence
even though Lerner somehow got wind of it and put it in one of his reports.
Your report would be official confirmation.
Dr. Chavchanidze is singled out to play a prominent role in your report.
Your seem to give him personal responsibility for the immediate decision to
admit Lerner and to do so with great courtesy. The meeting the morning before
the conference opened was private and may have been considered private by some
of the participants. In any case singling out Chavchanidze in this way could
have unfavorable repercussions for him. Perhaps some reference to the "local organizers"
would be more appropriate. I assume that you have checked your comments about the
Goldstein brothers carefully. Your account differs somewhat with one other
fragmentary report that I received. Again you single out Chavchanidze for special
responsibility. Do you think that he might consider his remarks on this matter to
have been private? This concludes my list of quibbles.
Carl
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∂22-SEP-75 1144 network site SRI
Date: 22 SEP 1975 1140-PDT
From: BOYER at SRI-AI
To: PROGRAM-REASONING-GROUP:
SEMINAR
BY
RODNEY TOPOR
PROGRAM VERIFICATION BY CONTINUATION INDUCTION
FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 26
4:00 P.M.
S.R.I.
INTERNATIONAL BUILDING
ROOM S103 (UEMURA ROOM)
RODNEY TOPOR RECENTLY OBTAINED A PH.D FROM THE UNIVERSITY
OF EDINBURGH WORKING UNDER ROD BURSTALL. HE WILL BE VISITING
THIS AREA FROM SEPTEMBER 25 UNTIL SEPTEMBER 30. HE THEN LEAVES
TO TAKE UP AN ACADEMIC POST IN HIS NATIVE LAND, AUSTRALIA.
CONTINUATION INDUCTION IS BASED ON THE IDEAS OF SYMBOLIC EXECUTION,
THE DESCRIPTION OF A GIVEN PROGRAM BY A VIRTUAL PROGRAM, AND THE
DEMONSTRATION THAT THESE TWO PROGRAMS ARE EQUIVALENT WHENEVER THE
GIVEN PROGRAM TERMINATES. THE MAIN ADVANTAGE OF CONTINUATION INDUCTION
OVER OTHER METHODS IS THAT IT ENABLES PROGRAMS USING A WIDE
VARIETY OF PROGRAMMING CONSTRUCTS SUCH AS RECURSION, INTERATION,
NON-DETERMINISM, PROCEDURES WITH SIDE-EFFECTS AND JUMPS OUT OF
BLOCKS TO BE HANDLED IN A NATURAL AND UNIFORM WAY.
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∂22-SEP-75 0859 network site SRI
Date: 22 SEP 1975 0855-PDT
From: BOYER at SRI-AI
Subject: A TALK TO BE GIVEN BY RONEY TOPOR AT SRI
To: WEYHRAUCH at SU-AI, MCCARTHY at SU-AI
WOULD YOU PLEASE ALERT EVERYONE AT SU-AI WHO MIGHT BE INTERESTED
TO THE FOLLOWING:
SEMINAR
BY
RODNEY TOPOR
PROGRAM VERIFICATION BY CONTINUATION INDUCTION
FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 26
4:00 P.M.
S.R.I.
INTERNATIONAL BUILDING
ROOM S103 (UEMURA ROOM)
RODNEY TOPOR RECENTLY OBTAINED A PH.D FROM THE UNIVERSITY
OF EDINBURGH WORKING UNDER ROD BURSTALL. HE WILL BE VISITING
THIS AREA FROM SEPTEMBER 25 UNTIL SEPTEMBER 30. HE THEN LEAVES
TO TAKE UP AN ACADEMIC POST IN HIS NATIVE LAND, AUSTRALIA.
CONTINUATION INDUCTION IS BASED ON THE IDEAS OF SYMBOLIC EXECUTION,
THE DESCRIPTION OF A GIVEN PROGRAM BY A VIRTUAL PROGRAM, AND THE
DEMONSTRATION THAT THESE TWO PROGRAMS ARE EQUIVALENT WHENEVER THE
GIVEN PROGRAM TERMINATES. THE MAIN ADVANTAGE OF CONTINUATION INDUCTION
OVER OTHER METHODS IS THAT IT ENABLES PROGRAMS USING A WIDE
VARIETY OF PROGRAMMING CONSTRUCTS SUCH AS RECURSION, INTERATION,
NON-DETERMINISM, PROCEDURES WITH SIDE-EFFECTS AND JUMPS OUT OF
BLOCKS TO BE HANDLED IN A NATURAL AND UNIFORM WAY.
THANKS.
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∂21-SEP-75 1914 1,RWG @ AI
anyway, i am having a good time out here, but will come back
before my excursion fare expires if you need me.
∂19-SEP-75 1347 PAP,REF @ CMUA
You're welcome. How was russia?
∂17-SEP-75 1218 BPM,BPM
John: You might be interested in a report at the CS Library entitled "An Overview
of the LBL Socio Economic Environmental Demographic Information System
(SEEDIS)" by D. M. Austin, S. G. Kranz, and C. Quong. Is this the system you
were using the other day?
∂09-SEP-75 1555 100,100: patte wood @ SAIL
a meeting at MIT Study of Future of Computing has been set up for
Monday, Sept 22 from 9-1
∂15-SEP-75 1656 FOL,RWW
the version of FOL on the system now contains the printing routines you
requested. if there are any problems let me know.
rwww
∂12-SEP-75 1633 S,LES
Just received a call from a fellow at the Hoover Inst. named Starr, I believe.
He said that they have a prospective donation of 9 bookshelves full of Soviet
literature on computers, cybernetics, etc. and said that you had talked about
storing it here somewhere. I said that we do indeed have space, but no
bookshelves. He plans to call back next Wednesday (Sept. 17) for confirmation
of space availability.
∂12-SEP-75 1624 100,100: patte @ SAIL
Dr. Hileman called and cancelled Sept 24 at 4:00, he will call again after Oct 8
and reschedule.
∂09-SEP-75 0942 network site DMS
DATE: 9 SEP 75 1053-EDT
FROM: LICK at MIT-DMS
ACTION-TO: McCarthy at SU-AI
CC: Lick at MIT-DMS, Carlstrom at USC-ISI
MESSAGE-ID: <[MIT-DMS]9 SEP 75 12:24:24-EDT.20432>
Very sorry, John, that I got away from ARPA without
communicating adequately with you about your revised
proposal. Yesterday I talked with Dave Carlstrom about it,
offering to do anything I could to facilitate matters. He
said that Dave Russell was working (on) it, correlating the
several parts (related to different program managers in
IPTO), but that Dave was on leave this week. You will
probably hear from one of the Daves next week. If you do
not, I suggest you call Carlstrom, who has the largest parts
of the action. I'll keep in touch with him and Russell, but
the matter is in their hands, now, and I do not want to
meddle much in the new management of the office, however
much interested I remain.
Hope the AI Conference came off all right.
Regards
Lick
∂27-AUG-75 0517 network site ISI
Date: 27 AUG 1975 0517-PDT
From: LICKLIDER at USC-ISI
Subject: Reaction Cubed
To: McCarthy at SU-AI
cc: Licklider
By all means let's talk on the phone.
The problem is not whether DoD-supported AI should have a
basic research core. It is whether some of the support of basic AI
research (all the support was for basic research, in the
view of Lukasik and Heilmeier) should be diverted to make room for
efforts in application and technology transfer. Your putting it
as you did (defending the retention of SOME basic research) just
underscores the fact that the administrators and the researchers see
things in such different ways that they are extremely difficult to
mediate.
As for the importance of formal reasoning: There is no question
that it is important for the development of AI broadly. The question
is whether a large amount of it is what is needed to solve the
DoD problems that AI has some chance of solving in the near term. The
whole situation is to be understood in terms of DoD's wanting to
assess the capability oo the field to solve some of DoD's problems now.
Almost everyone who has thought about the matter understands that it
is penny-wise but pound-foolish to go overboard on
pressing for immediate or near-term applications, that the real
importance of AI to DoD lies in the longer term possibility that ther
may in due course be an advance in thinking to match the
a weapons delivery and in explosive power. But the pressure for
near term applications is nevertheless a fact. Not for 100 percent shift to
applications, but for 30-40 percent.
Finally (for this note), this is a bad time for you to be
thinking (or talking) about ceasing to administer the lab. The
reaction would be, indeed, something like "if the leaders of the field
don't have any more committment to it than that, it is too risky for
DoD to put so much money into".
My own assessment of the situation is that now is a time in
hry that needs the best contributions of a lot of people, including
you, and that the situation might be a lot stronger in a couple of
years. The main chance is to bring NSF into the support of AI in a
good way. Please do not mess up the ARPA community just as we get
started on fashioning some kind of arrangement with NSF. But let us
talk on the phone.
Regards
Lick
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∂26-AUG-75 2300 PAP,SUZ
I AM SORRY THAT I COULD NOT SEE YOU AT THE LAB SO THAT I CAN
SAY GOOD BY TO YOU. I WILL LEAVE FOR CARNEGIE TOMORROW. I APPRECIATE
YOUR SUPPORT AND HELP DURING THREE YEARS OF STAY AT STANFORD. I WILL
COME BACK HERE TIME TO TIME, BUT BEST WISHES. NORI